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i swear that no one at ms actually uses explorer to do any actual work or file management. It actively makes things more difficult and hinder access.
Iâ(TM)ve started using one commander recently and it is a very good replacement for explorer for people actually needing to manage files
Are there any open-source replacements? Another issue is that MS Office and other MS apps have put a stupid spamy middle-man “cloud resource panel” between the Save options and File Explorer. I now have to do extra steps to get to Explorer. I tried various registry tricks to stop it, but updates appear to overwrite the tweaks. (I’m stuck with MS-Office for work stuff, can’t use Libre.)
MS keeps breaking things that mostly work and we got used to; like drop-down menus, title bars, and File Explorer. Ever trie
I think the confusion is by design, they really want you saving your shit in OneDrive so when it gets full the computer illiterate will have to buy more space. This sort of behavior should be illegal.
I tried “to computer” but it only works under narrow conditions.
I think what you’re seeing is Windows team flailing a bit as it tries to find a way to be relevant while also keeping a giant OS modern. Azure is the cash cow now and most development targets Linux (or doesn’t care) on the server, or web or mobile for client-side.
Introducing ads to the start menu, bloaty Edge features that aren’t plugins because nobody would download them, and replacing old features with less functional shinier ones.
Feels like an intentional strategy shift here. MS likes to be data driven,

I think what you’re seeing is Windows team flailing a bit as it tries to find a way to be relevant while also keeping a giant OS modern. Azure is the cash cow now and most development targets Linux (or doesn’t care) on the server, or web or mobile for client-side.

Introducing ads to the start menu, bloaty Edge features that aren’t plugins because nobody would download them, and replacing old features with less functional shinier ones.

Feels like an intentional strategy shift here. MS likes to be data driven, so I bet numbers support it all being a good move. Some of it seems kinda silly and likely to bleed more users, though.

I think what you’re seeing is Windows team flailing a bit as it tries to find a way to be relevant while also keeping a giant OS modern. Azure is the cash cow now and most development targets Linux (or doesn’t care) on the server, or web or mobile for client-side.
Introducing ads to the start menu, bloaty Edge features that aren’t plugins because nobody would download them, and replacing old features with less functional shinier ones.
Feels like an intentional strategy shift here. MS likes to be data driven, so I bet numbers support it all being a good move. Some of it seems kinda silly and likely to bleed more users, though.
Maybe they want to make Windows so unpalatable that we’ll all happily climb aboard whatever their “all online all the time” replacement is that’s sorta Chromebook-ish and forces a forever payment every month? Today you can still, with a LOT of bullshit extra-steps, install Windows and run all local. MS is very not fond of that idea. As is evident by the constant nags about needing to log into the Microsoft account if you don’t keep it always logged in when working locally.
Stop trying to get us excited about this. We don’t care. It’s not even interesting enough for a good argument.
On the contrary, the argument was made long ago.
Microsoft – WE’RE GONNA ADD AI TO PAINT!
Users – Please don’t mess up paint.
Microsoft – WE’RE GOING TO FEATURE LOAD PAINT!
Users, resigned – I beg you, don’t mess up paint.
Microsoft – WE ADDED FEATURE BLOAT TO PAINT! YAY!
Users – Sigh.
Repeat with Explorer. Repeat with every new feature. Edit the user response to be more along the lines of, “Please don’t force us to try to find a way to turn off another ridiculous unwanted feature,” and Copilot could be added too.
I installed KB5030310 and saw no sign of Copilot. Did some extra research:
As detailed here: https://blogs.windows.com/wind… [windows.com]
1) You won’t see Copilot unless you go in to settings and enable the megaphone-icon option called “Get the latest updates as soon as they’re available”
2) “Windows Configuration Update (KB5030509)” will show up even if you’ve already installed KB5030310 with the megaphone option off.
Update: Still no sign of Copilot.
MS and news articles are advertising Copilot, I’ve installed the necessary updates, and there’s still NO SIGN of Copilot except for a Bing chat icon on either side of the start menu.
– The one on the left called “chat”, opens the Edge browser to a blue-ish (Balanced) webpage and submits my search query automatically to “The new Bing” AI chat.
– The one on the right with a Bing chat bubble opens a purple-ish (Creative) webpage and does not submit my search query automatically to “The new Bing” AI chat.
Also, it looks like Copilot isn’t a single “thing”- rather, it appears to be an addition to several different products, including:
– Edge (browser)
– Teams
– O365
– MS Paint … all of which may have different ways of activating Copilot?
For example, MS Paint shows no signs of Copilot- Do I have to sign in on Edge? Do I have to have to log in to my computer with a MS account? Do I need to somehow activate a Beta/Dev/Canary channel somewhere? Do I need to download and install some kind of Bing sidebar?
It is NOT clear how to activate or use Copilot within the context of the computer itself. So far, I’ve only found the purple and blue webpages.
I see screenshots of folks using a standalone Copilot icon in their taskbar- no one seems to be talking about how that got there or how to get it there. I for one, do not have this icon on my start bar.
> Microsoft wants to keep rearranging my environment. An OS is supposed to be infrastructure, invisible unless something breaks.
It is infrastructure: a spam engine.
Maybe we can make a deal: have a Windows option to choose to accept innocuous ads, and in exchange MS doesn’t break or change normal common functionality. A few ads that don’t block what I need I can live with in exchange for stability.
That is a deal that would never be honoured. In all the history of ‘just the tip’, putting advertising into a product has never ended with anything but the full shaft.

> Microsoft wants to keep rearranging my environment. An OS is supposed to be infrastructure, invisible unless something breaks.

It is infrastructure: a spam engine.

Maybe we can make a deal: have a Windows option to choose to accept innocuous ads, and in exchange MS doesn’t break or change normal common functionality. A few ads that don’t block what I need I can live with in exchange for stability.

> Microsoft wants to keep rearranging my environment. An OS is supposed to be infrastructure, invisible unless something breaks.
It is infrastructure: a spam engine.
Maybe we can make a deal: have a Windows option to choose to accept innocuous ads, and in exchange MS doesn’t break or change normal common functionality. A few ads that don’t block what I need I can live with in exchange for stability.
No. Just Fucking No. I paid for the fucking OS, I expect it to just be a fucking OS.
The only OS’s that are just OS’s are the ones you don’t pay for.
I didn’t pay for Fedora, but it treats me with a hell of a lot more respect than the Windows 11 my dad *did* pay for.
Interestingly, my parents are both non-techie people. But I wind up doing a vast amount of phone tech support for my dad’s Windows 11 box. My mom’s Fedora laptop, on the other hand, just works for her. Linux has now surpassed Windows as an OS for ordinary folks who want a machine that just works and doesn’t do stupid shit.
= Clippy on LSD.
or, Trippy Clippy.
Can you turn it off and if, how?
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