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Based.
Ethnicity, culture, nationality, language are all useful and somewhat neutral distinctions. Race is a bullshit term that only makes sense in the context of historical abuses that it was used to justify, like slavery or disenfranchisement.
So no, that isn’t the question, unless you believe that race isn’t a bullshit term… and then you should ask, which side am I on, humanists or racists?
Maybe rephrase the question with non-bullshit terms and go from there.

Funny how people like you always think “race” is perfectly valid when it comes to policies to redress racism. That you even think racism exists but race doesn’t shows you’re just playing a ridiculous game of pedantry to signal your moral superiority. That’s not to suggest all definitions of race are valid (e.g. genetics), but no, the term is not bullshit, unless “systemic racism” is also bullshit.
I suspect this is largely “racist logic”. Claim that you’re not a bigoted MFer by trying to pretend that the thing your being bigoted about doesn’t exits.

Race exits, it’s a form of classification, genetic as you’ve pointed out, it can also be physical or social. Not every distinct race has a physical or genetic distinction. This is all fine, none of that is evil or bigoted in itself.

Its how the concept gets used, or more co-opted by bigots that makes it bad. It’s quite possible to understand, accept a
I mean, I would rather it be something that wasn’t racist, but they’re showing how bad something is by doing the most 4chan thing possible.
And I’m sure you’d define the “most Facebook thing possible” around college students usage of the platform circa 2004.
Newfags are still cancer.
I ran into moot a litle over 15 years ago at an anime convention. He was relieved I had only passing familiarity with the site… that it existed. It wasn’t until a few minutes later when a couple of the people in the group I was hanging around went apeshit that I had met their god and didn’t know much of anything about the place. They then showed me the best the site had to offer. I quickly realized I should probably find a group of friends that don’t hang out in /b/ all day.
To me, it was just the SA forum
It’s not just racism, they try to force the thing to spit porn too.
I seem a man getting pretty darn close with judy hopps.

Random trolling became point-for-point Kremlin spam, and you’re doing a great job of exemplifying it yourself with that delusional opening remark.
There is an alternative theory. 4Chan was first, the Kremlin took their evil from there. There are two things
a) Vladimir Putin clearly believed and still seems to believe a whole load of weird stuff off the internet. Remember, he’s a 70 something grandad like yours from out in the Midwest.
b) the Kremlin has always had a deliberate policy of going around and adopting organizations that cause trouble in the West and using them. E.g. BLM and their racist opposition were both Kremlin supported.
By all accounts, Putin doesn’t even know how to use the internet, and gets all his news from printouts.
He does indeed believe in a lot of weird things, but it’s more about Third Rome geopolitical messianism.

The “woke trajectory” you’re talking about doesn’t exist
Oh my…

Oh please. Don’t tell me you haven’t noticed that your “woke trajectory” conspiracy theory zeroes in on the same scapegoats as Mein Kampf: Hollywood, academia, leftism, civil rights, etc.
It’s designed as a “lube” to rebrand Neo-Nazism as somehow being “pro-liberty”.
Your response epitomizes “woke”. I say two words, which you apparently interpreted as my support for neo-nazis, Mein Kampf, and Hitler. If you’re really interested in dispelling falsehoods about “woke”, I’d suggest calming down a bit.
You just demonstrated that “woke” is whatever you feel like disagreeing with at the moment, it’s not real.
And that’s why you had only two words to say about it. Like the classic I don’t like your attitude, what attitude, THAT attitude gaslighting.
Remember that the Blackshirts were famous for their slogan hinting at the ever present disdain and trolling underlaid with violence: “me ne frego”, or ‘it’s nothing to me, your opinion doesn’t count’ –or ‘get fucked’ as it was used.
SOP
If people don’t want to be called fascist, they should stop quacking like one.

I just told you that your conspiracy theory
The fact that you’ve decided I have one theory or another based on me saying “oh my” is rather telling. I don’t even know what you’re talking about. Some conspiracy I’ve never heard of let alone believe in.
You do realize, your theory that there’s an army of neo-nazi hitler loving boogeyman out there promoting this supposed conspiracy is a conspiracy theory in itself? Not that I expect any significant self reflection is going to result there, but anyway.
Most of that is just ‘don’t be an asshole’. A bit of it is stupid over correction. The rest is a loss of privilege that triggers a sense of entitlement.
CAIMLAS, here educate us on racist agitprop, LOL
Say what you want about 4chan users’ methods, but they often have a very good point to make about the absurdity of their targets.
They’ve been the source of a significant amount of ridiculous conspiracy theories spread through social media and have exposed that humanity is not smart enough as a whole for social media to be “good”. On balance, giving the every single idiot, sociopath, and narcissist access to a communication channel that can reach billions and funding the communication networks with financial systems that reward views/clicks instead of utility has been objectively bad.
Now, they’re showing that publicly available AI is far from intelligent and woefully under-supervised.
Maybe we can head off THIS disaster.
They’re racists who somehow think there’s some plausible deniability in saying “It’s a joke” or “We’re just showing a vulnerability.”
I see no reason to buy into the ridiculous excuses these people make, when it’s obvious what they really are and what they are really doing.
Yes, I think a troll can actually believe in what they’re trying to piss people off with. These are not mutually exclusive positions.
Quite often they are, yes. That is often WHY they troll. They know their stance pisses people off, and they get off on that.
4Chan is a force of idiocy and sometimes mal-intent, but you have to be blinded by ideology if you don’t see the utility of their actions. Their philosophies are irrelevant and thus deniability is irrelevant. There are no excuses being made.
You can’t change who they are, but you can heed the effective warning and prevent people like them from taking further advantage of the systems they exploit.

They’re racists who somehow think there’s some plausible deniability in saying “It’s a joke” or “We’re just showing a vulnerability.”
I see no reason to buy into the ridiculous excuses these people make, when it’s obvious what they really are and what they are really doing.
“it’s just a joke” used to be the favoured defence of anyone called out for racism, now it’s “WOKEEE!!!!1!11!!ELEVEN!!!”

You’re dead right that it’s obvious and anyone with half a brain can see what their doing. They’ll keep changing their excuse as they slowly realise the old one isn’t working any more.
Sure, if you are not a target.
They’re obviously at least functionally racist if they’re doing this.

Journalists say they are racist so it must be true
If you believe the media, everyone (white?) is racist. If you say you aren’t, you just don’t understand yourself. The term has lost all meaning.
Darn! We should take the internet away from humanity since we’re not smart enough to use it for it’s intended purposes of making the world a better place.

We should take the internet away from humanity since we’re not smart enough to use it for it’s intended purposes of making the world a better place.
The intended purpose was to facilitate better communication between universities and government agencies. The whole “make the world a better place” bit wasn’t a thing until the .com bubble in the 90s and birth of the Silicon Valley Bro who needed a more marketable slogan than “Update the 19th Century monopolist union busting playbook with modern technology”
Human behavior being shitty online was the most foreseeable outcome ever to those of us who used pre-Internet services like BBSes, Compuserve, IRC, AOL, the alt.* hierarchy on Usenet (and the rest of Usenet after Eternal September), etc., etc., etc.
I regretfully recall the day when AOL and Compuserve built gateways to the Internet. That’s when it started to go bad.
The current intended purpose of the internet is to sell stuff, like pretty much everything else corporations touch.
Sure there are other things, like sharing opinions, knowledge, porn but these are minor bit roles in the real purpose. These are just hooks to get you to buy more stuff.
If you stop being triggered, 4chan will stop posting these images. Stop playing whack-a-mole. You cannot use racism as an excuse to censor.

If you stop being triggered, 4chan will stop posting these images./quote?
Really? Racists will just up and stop promoting their beliefs if we just ignore them?
Somehow I doubt that.
“Really? Racists will just up and stop promoting their beliefs if we just ignore them?”
Of course they won’t stop. But, by definition, it won’t matter to anyone. Get on with your life, even if someone is wrong on the Internet. [xkcd.com]
“Really? Racists will just up and stop promoting their beliefs if we just ignore them?”
Of course they won’t stop. But, by definition, it won’t matter to anyone. Get on with your life, even if someone is wrong on the Internet.
It’s not against the law to be racist…or speak or promote racist ideations.
In the US, at least…this is considered free speech.
The bad comes with the good in a system like this…it’s best to just ignore it.
Kinda like that episode of the Simpsons (decades ago)…when the adv

Kinda like that episode of the Simpsons (decades ago)…when the advertising icons came to life and the only way “kill” them was to just ignore them. (Treehouse of Horrors episode I think?).
Sure, except in reality ignoring racists doesnt make them die or even disappear or go away. Instead, a lack of negative feed back leads to normalization (at least in their own eyes) and the normalization of racism leads to people acting on it to the detriment of others.
In another post I cited the Trump presidency which regardless of how you feel about him had an image problem in regards to race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… [wikipedia.org] that was seized on by White supremacists as a “virtue”. What did we get from thi

“Really? Racists will just up and stop promoting their beliefs if we just ignore them?”
Of course they won’t stop. But, by definition, it won’t matter to anyone. Get on with your life, even if someone is wrong on the Internet.
It’s not against the law to be racist…or speak or promote racist ideations.
In the US, at least…this is considered free speech.
In the US this is considered the very foundation of society; that there are races and that you can look at someone and figure out from their appearance what race they are and, thereby, where they fit in society and how you should interact with them.
Without that very concept, society in the USA would collapse.
Therefore, the USA is, fundamentally, a racist society.
It isn’t just ‘free speech’, its a requirement for the USA to even exist.
In the US this is considered the very foundation of society; that there are races and that you can look at someone and figure out from their appearance what race they are and, thereby, where they fit in society and how you should interact with them.
Without that very concept, society in the USA would collapse.
Therefore, the USA is, fundamentally, a racist society.
It isn’t just ‘free speech’, its a requirement for the USA to even exist.
Really? You believe this…?
Wow…just……wow.
No, but there is a sizable population demographic, agnostic to race, religion, or creed, which will do the opposite of something they are told simply because you told them to do it. I’d put the number at roughly 5% of the total population.
So when you censor things, or make them risque and edgy, you automatically make them more appealing to a certain demographic.
That demographic, interestingly, has a high degree of overlap with those who have ADHD – the same demographic which is targeted by ‘the other’ side

Of course they won’t stop. But, by definition, it won’t matter to anyone.
No, you dont get it. If racists are able to be loud and proud about their racism that means more abuse for those they want to target. It emboldens them just to not be shut down. The more their material is out there the more emboldened they feel and the more “normal” they begin to feel their racism is the more likely they are to act on it to the detriment of others.
Trump’s presidency is a prime example. Love him or hate him he most certainly had an image problem when it came to race https://en.wikipedia.org/ [wikipedia.org]
.. at least it’s not your life! .. just stop being triggered by uncivilized behaviour it makes you look so uncool.
I beg to differ, but will not call you names, because you know yourself that your are a very undesirable individual, I suppose.
And btw. you are far from correct on the topic.
Outrage by things that deserve outrage is fine, but people get outraged the smallest of things, some people published some racist images, big deal.
The genocides around the world, people living in slavery, you know these are the things that outrage me, some morons publishing some dumb images do not.
A few years ago I watched a news show where they described where a woman got an accidental text that said that said she was a 4, but he would sleep with her since he hadn’t had sex for a while, the news readers sa
The entire value proposition of the LLM image generators pitched to idiot media pundits as AI is convenience driven: it doesn’t do ANYTHING well, but it is VERY convenient. It can’t make a drawing with a pair of human looking hands in it worth a damn, but it can make 1000 of them quick.
It makes things that were before too inconvenient to do much more attainable. Before it was rarely viable for a large amount of trouble makers to create any large body of work to create harassment or an agitprop effect but, as intended, LLM image generators made that much less inconvenient to attempt.
But the same rubes who repeat the press statements calling this “AI” won’t ask the question “Why not hold the technologists who intend to profit from this software accountable for the novel harms it creates?” They can’t considering the sites they work for live and die by how much engagement they get on Facebook, and asking those questions to LLM charlatans without asking them of Meta and their role in genocide in Myanmar.
Refusing to allow a nipple but supercharging racists sound like exactly the kind of future that nutjob white Christian Nationalists think of as the perfect utopian ideal.
This may be quite intentional.
Recall when email first hit the scene and how useful it was until spam shit on it? It’s a case of humans taking advantage of technology in a way not intended by the designers.
It’s been the same with social media designed to improve global communications.
Technology is a great tool for shouting, “FIRE!” in a crowd.
Got to hide those nipples. What if a wee baby saw one?
It’s 4Chan. What else do you really need, a cross burning in your yard?
No. The images are racist regardless of what might be in the posters’ hearts.
Of course not. Going to church after your trolling session and posting as a Christian among like minded Christians where no one is being trolled or judged externally is what makes you a Christian.
4chan.org/b/ is that Church. Their racist bullshit extends well beyond public trolling into their private lives. If you are “posing” that much, it’s probably because you really really identify with what you’re posing as.

If I troll people posing as a Christian does that make me a Christian?
More than likely, Christian sects are often attacked by other sects of Christianity.

At least that’s what the Catholics keep saying about the Prodi dogs (and vice versa, I’m a non-practicing Satanist, so I’m just sitting back with some popcorn).

Everyone is (called) a racist these days.
Sounds more like a you problem as I havent observed this in life at all.

Everyone is (called) a racist these days.
Sounds more like a you problem as I havent observed this in life at all.
But it isn’t unlike what I see from the authoritarian left, where everyone else is a Nazi. Even the liberal left are nazis.
Once again, you problem. I do not observe what you describe in American society to any wide degree.
Is there the occasional Leftist idiot who calls someone a Nazi when it’s uncalled for? Of course there is, there are idiots in every major ideology. I have never observed any type of broad based problem with this however.

Once again, you problem. I do not observe what you describe in American society to any wide degree.
Is there the occasional Leftist idiot who calls someone a Nazi when it’s uncalled for? Of course there is, there are idiots in every major ideology. I have never observed any type of broad based problem with this however.
Leftism isn’t really that widespread in the USA though. I know you like to think of the Democrats as politically ‘left’ but thats only because they are slightly less far right than the Republicans. I guess you’d have to be pretty fringe to encounter people who are actually leftist.
The political positions of Left and Right are as relative as the directions of the same name. Is our left as far to the left as other first world nations? Absolutely not. They’re still our country’s left wing though.
Printing Press: Jonathan Swift complained about political fake news in 1710 in his essay “The Art of Political Lying”
Radio: Orson Welles’s War of the Worlds broadcast in 1938.
Printing Press (v2 – IMAGES!!): “Dewey Defeats Truman.” 1948
TV: Infomercials. Need I say more? Amirite?
Early Internet: DMHO. 2004
TV v2: Plane crashes. Bing Dang Ow. 2013
Internet (with AI!!!): This
Remind me again where the fire is?
Breaking News:
Technology can be used both for things you approve of and thing you despise.
Who’d have thought?
More details after these ads which tell you totally made up bullshit in order to influence you into buying their crap but we don’t call them out on it because they pay our bills…
It’s a well-developed fascist strategy of destabilization.
Here’s a choice excerpt from “Elon Musk’s Machine for Fascism: A Tale of Three Elections” recently published on emptywheel.net:
From trial testimony, regarding hashtag hijacking….
“Itâ(TM)s like if you have a hashtag â” back then like a Hillary Clinton hashtag called âoeIâ(TM)m with her,â then what that would be is I would say, okay, letâ(TM)s take âoeIâ(TM)m with herâ hashtag, because thatâ(TM)s what

… refuse to generate a nipple but is supercharging 4chan racists.
That’s not a bug, that’s a feature.
https://thedevilspanties.com/a… [thedevilspanties.com]
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